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Perhaps that should read YOU wont believe this, it happened some years ago but the chap is still around and believe or not, he has set up as a second hand car dealer, all be it in a small way.

secondhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west/5110270.stm

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Just tried that link and it is not very clear. here is a transcript.

Cooking oil used as brake fluid

Williams' 'death trap' car was confiscated by the judge
A motorist who put cooking oil in his car's brake fluid has been given a suspended jail sentence and banned from driving by Swansea Crown Court.
David Wyn Williams, 25, already has a conviction for using a rolled-up carpet as a bumper on his old Rover.
The unemployed chef from Borth, Ceredigion, who admitted dangerous driving, was carrying four children when stopped about a faulty light.
His barrister said the offence came "out of ignorance and stupidity".
Williams was stopped in his P-registration car driving up Penglais Hill, Aberystwyth.
The court heard that the police officer panicked as the car rolled backwards as soon as he released the handbrake.

He has an interest in cars but it exceeds his knowledge - he takes a rather immature attitude towards cars
Barrister Craig Jones
He pumped the foot brake 10 times with "no effect whatsoever," said Sarah Lambert, prosecuting.
Miss Lambert said a consultant engineer found the brake fluid reservoir was full but the liquid inside was a strange colour and had congealed into "a globular, jelly-like substance."
Williams confessed he had added vegetable oil.
Bald tyre
She told the court that Williams relied on the handbrake and the gears to slow the car.
He had four girls in the car at the time, all of them aged under 16.
Miss Lambert said Williams claimed the foot brake "was a bit spongy" after work had been carried out on the vehicle at the local branch of ATS.
Police seized the car and later checked his story, finding he had admitted to staff at ATS he put vegetable oil in his brake fluid.
More checks found two of the vehicle's doors would not open - one did not even have a handle - a tyre was bald and there was no rear-view mirror.
The court was told that Williams had already been warned by a mechanic the car was unsafe.
Williams was jailed for six months, suspended for two years, and banned from driving for 12 months.
He was ordered to pay £230 in court costs and to take an extended driving test before having his licence back.
'Immature attitude'
The judge, Mr Recorder Nicholas Gareth Jones, ordered the car to be confiscated.
"It would cost more to put it right than it is worth," he said.
"It was a death trap and the consequences could have been very serious if not tragic.
"You are very lucky not to be here on a far more serious charge. You posed a very serious risk to yourself, your passengers and to other road users."
Williams' barrister, Craig Jones, said, "He now understands the risk he posed.
"He has an interest in cars but it exceeds his knowledge. He takes a rather immature attitude towards cars.
"The offence was out of ignorance and stupidity."
Williams, he added, would be taking the bus in future.

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OK, what have you done out of ignorance or stupidity?

I expect all of us have at some time, probably in our late teens.

I had a front bumper fall off my dart in about 1971; luckily I was going about two mph at a road junction, so I tied it back on immediately with wire and never changed it.

Worse, I jacked the car up and rested both sides on piles of bricks as I wrestled with the steering toe-in and the car wobbled as I lay underneath and I thought the bricks were going to disintegrate. I think the wheels were on, but even so I might have been crushed.

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I once bought a Morris Marina!
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Once changed the clutch on a Hilllman Minx using stones from a dry stone wall as "axle stands"............................(we were half way up a Welsh mountain at the time) Picture of Minx attached complete with the idiots with whom I was on holiday!!! (must have been 1969)
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theoldman wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:12 am .............(we were half way up a Welsh mountain at the time)...
Why didn't you just roll downhill with the engine off, and save petrol?

Add lack of common sense to ignorance and stupidity :D

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Young we were................................. :D
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Apologies, I think I was slightly rude, above. I was going to delete the post, but since you've seen it, I'll leave it there.

Necessity is the mother of invention. Well done.

When my Ford Escort had starting trouble, I discovered it was a dodgy ignition switch. I got a long length of cable, attached it at one end to the positive starter terminal and (after checking that the car was in neutral) held the other end to the battery positive terminal as long as necessary (sometimes standing at the side of the car in case it lurched forwards, but not always).

Since this worked a treat, I couldn't be bothered to get the ignition switch mended. It obviously opened the ignition connection, but not the starter connection on the spring. I drove around with the cable loose over the engine, still fixed at the bottom end to the starter motor. Not ignorance or stupidity, I thought I was rather clever.

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....which reminds me of another trip to Wales in a Bedford "Rattly Front Bumper" van...........

Rear spring broke at the shackle end so we INGENIOUSLY :o tied a piece of 4 x 2 to the chassis and rested the broken end of the spring on it!

Ran like this until the MoT came up...........................
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Neil, how did you manage to find a Hillman Minx clutch plate half way up a Welsh mountain? Was there a handy motor factor?

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