I think you may have answered your own question Peter. The "others" interpret EU law to suit themselves, we follow it by the letter probably because our politicians find it easier to say "we can't do that because EU law says so". Maybe it's about time they had to think for themselves instead of blaming Europe? Let's get out and make them work for a living!Petelang wrote: They too have suffered silly laws, most of which they either interpret favourably or believe it's to the good. They feel a part of it. Why has Britain never seen it from a similar viewpoint?
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Does being in the EU affect Classic motoring?
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Andy
1954 Conquest Mk1, 1956 Conquest Mk2, 1957 Conquest Century Mk2, 1955 Austin A90 Westminster
1954 Conquest Mk1, 1956 Conquest Mk2, 1957 Conquest Century Mk2, 1955 Austin A90 Westminster
Re: Does being in the EU affect Classic motoring?
Just trying to get this back on topic....
What's happened to the EU recommendation to ban the best sort of chromium plating on environmental grounds? I thought that this year it was going to mean that chromium plating either had to be a worse, less long-lasting product or items would have to be sent to China.
Has that been dropped or is it another reason to vote Leave?
What's happened to the EU recommendation to ban the best sort of chromium plating on environmental grounds? I thought that this year it was going to mean that chromium plating either had to be a worse, less long-lasting product or items would have to be sent to China.
Has that been dropped or is it another reason to vote Leave?
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As you said its a Recommendation and not a Directive. So its up to the Member States to put it into National Law. I know in some countries it will not go into National law.John-B wrote:Just trying to get this back on topic....
What's happened to the EU recommendation to ban the best sort of chromium plating on environmental grounds? I thought that this year it was going to mean that chromium plating either had to be a worse, less long-lasting product or items would have to be sent to China.
Has that been dropped or is it another reason to vote Leave?
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The proposal from the EU was to ban Hexavalent chroming from 2017 because it is bad for the environment and is carcinogenic. Trivalent chroming is not affected by the proposals and is not considered to be carcinogenic. Both are "hard chrome". For decorative chrome work the difference between the two is negligible. Trivalent chrome is marginally darker than hexavalent chrome but unless you had one of each right next to each other most people couldn't see any difference. Trivalent chrome is better wearing and more corrosion resistant than hexavalent chrome and its coverage is better when being applied but it is less hard than hexavalent chrome at about 85% of the hardness of the hexavalent chrome.
These proposals are nothing new and have been in the works for more than 5 years and it has proved more difficult than perhaps was envisaged. Hexavalent chrome is used extensively in aerospace and it would be very expensive to rework all the procedures and re-certify all the affected components and so a licensing system is now proposed at €300,000 for a license to continue using the "banned" hexavalent chrome processes. Hexavalent chrome is also used in the marine industry. Therefore the "big boys" who work in this product will simply pay the €300,000 license fee and carry on as before. it will be cheaper. Also unaffected are the chromers who use hard chrome for bearings. There are more of this type of work in the UK than there are decorative chromers. So, this ban is not really a ban if you can afford the license!
Decorative chromers, the sort of business we use, will turn to trivalent chroming instead although this will still likely cost them upwards of £20,000 as they have to replace chrome baths, anodes and so forth because the 2 chroming processes are different and you cannot use the old equipment on the new process.
However, the end result, you will still be able to get your parts chromed by businesses here in the UK and you will be hard put to notice any difference.
These proposals are nothing new and have been in the works for more than 5 years and it has proved more difficult than perhaps was envisaged. Hexavalent chrome is used extensively in aerospace and it would be very expensive to rework all the procedures and re-certify all the affected components and so a licensing system is now proposed at €300,000 for a license to continue using the "banned" hexavalent chrome processes. Hexavalent chrome is also used in the marine industry. Therefore the "big boys" who work in this product will simply pay the €300,000 license fee and carry on as before. it will be cheaper. Also unaffected are the chromers who use hard chrome for bearings. There are more of this type of work in the UK than there are decorative chromers. So, this ban is not really a ban if you can afford the license!
Decorative chromers, the sort of business we use, will turn to trivalent chroming instead although this will still likely cost them upwards of £20,000 as they have to replace chrome baths, anodes and so forth because the 2 chroming processes are different and you cannot use the old equipment on the new process.
However, the end result, you will still be able to get your parts chromed by businesses here in the UK and you will be hard put to notice any difference.
Re: Does being in the EU affect Classic motoring?
DON'T FORGET TO VOTE!
[As if you would]
[As if you would]
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Placed my cross for democracy and independence
Andy
1954 Conquest Mk1, 1956 Conquest Mk2, 1957 Conquest Century Mk2, 1955 Austin A90 Westminster
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Yes me too, but I have an awful feeling that is will go to the Remain side, been told the the some of the polling stations have been issuing Pencils for people to mark the ballot papers with, you can draw your own conclusions about that ! !
cheers A'l
cheers A'l
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Only flaw with the result is the one here in Scotland
Just have to hope there'll maybe be a swap scheme if we want to live in the free UK rather than the EU region of Scotland
Just have to hope there'll maybe be a swap scheme if we want to live in the free UK rather than the EU region of Scotland
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Well, what a stupendous result, I did seriously think that the "Remain" camp would win, but the good old British public have finally had their say at last !
CheersAl
CheersAl
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Sterling in free-fall; good for classic motoring?