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Re: SP vibration

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:21 am
by Salmons
When in 1998 I bought my second SP250 I experienced a vibration at speeds over 45mph.

I took the car to Brian Hills a then SP250 expert, who lived nearby. He looked at the engine whilst it was running and suggested the shaft from engine to the fan was slightly out of true. We took the fan and shaft off and she ran like a sewing mechine.

I discussed with the previous owner who had taken the engine out and had it rebuilt. Whilst it was first out it was on the flloor and resting on the propeller shaft, which caused the damage. We fitted an electric fan and never replaced the original shaft and fan. Might this be your problem?

Dennis

Re: SP vibration

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 11:24 pm
by pbrally
The SP already has an electric fan otherwise that would have been a good suggestion.

Re: SP vibration

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:00 pm
by A.N.Other
If you are going to do a rebuild it may be of some interest to stand the engine on the floor and run it without the fan on it. If the engine is unbalanced then it will wobble. If it is OK then it will run as smooth as silk, well the three I have tested like this did.

Re: SP vibration

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:35 pm
by Soundmike
I believe in years gone by there were Australian produced pistons which were rather heavier than standard. My V8 saloon always had a tremor at about 2000rpm. I swapped the motor for another and now very smooth running. I have stripped our the old motor (+20 thou) and found the pistons much heavier than original, most of which I believe was the much thicker and heavier gudgeon pin! Should be rectified by doing a full engine balance. Maybe you have a similar situation.....

Re: SP vibration

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:56 pm
by pbrally
It is now a case of $'s and time will tell .

Re: SP vibration

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:17 am
by Dobbinridesagain
Mission creep. It was OK before the mounts were changed. Do you still have the old mounts? Put them back.

Ivor

PS sorry if this has been suggested, haven't read right back through the thread.

Re: SP vibration

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:13 am
by pbrally
Hi Ivor, When investigated one mount was very soft the other had cracked. No point replacing bad stuff.Maybe the position of the gear box with the weak mounts had always been disguising the vibration. I know that sounds weird but all other avenues have been investigated so only thing left is the rebuild. Cheers PB

Re: SP vibration

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:26 pm
by Dobbinridesagain
pbrally wrote:Hi Ivor, When investigated one mount was very soft the other had cracked. No point replacing bad stuff.
Not long-term. But as a means of eliminating the mounts from your enquiries, worth trying.

An article in this month's Classic & Sports car, a Merc, mounts replaced with pattern parts, vibration problem not cured, replaced with OEM and the vibes went away.

Appreciate we don't have OEM options, but I do think that aftermarket rubber components are an Achilles heel of our hobby.

Ivor

Re: SP vibration

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:26 pm
by pbrally
Unfortunately Ivor we are now past that point but your suggestion taken. I will give a little scream if the vibration is there after the freshen up. The engine has now been stripped and shows signs of needing a rebuild if not now but in the near future and we are doing the clutch at the same time. After that if vibration is still there I guess I will be looking for some old well used gearbox mounts to fix the vibration....hee hee. I will keep the forum updated. Pete

Re: SP vibration

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:24 pm
by chrisrichards
Hello,

I appreciate that this thread was started some months ago but I was wondering if the problem was found.

My SP also vibrates from around 1300 rpm upward, I too can feel it through the seat of my pants and in fact through the whole car.

It idles smoothly at 500 rpm.

The vibration is severe and occurs whether in neutral or in gear, but will disappear when driving if I de-clutch and allow the engine to drop to idle, so not road speed related.

Here's the strange part though, occasionally the vibration will disappear, usually after changing gear, ie using the clutch. It will then run sweetly until the next gear change, up or down, when it will return.

I run an electric fan, and have replaced the gearbox mounts and propshaft uj with David Manners supplied parts.

The engine was rebuilt some 2000 miles ago before I owned the car and the oil pressure is always good.

Anyone got any ideas?

Many thanks

Chris