Hi All,
After struggling with the upright nature of the dart seats and sore shoulders after long journeys I considered changing the seats to MGF ones as so many have already done. However before doing so I thought I'd play with the reclining angled of the original seats to see if the comfort could be improved. After many attempts I final found an angle which has made the seats feel so much better, well in my view anyway. Attached is the engineering diagram if you fancy a weekend playing in the garage.
Cheers Dave
NB: so sadly miss having the ability to share with Wilf he so enjoyed these little bit of info for his side files, RIP buddy
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Dart Seat reclining brackets
Re: Dart Seat reclining brackets
Thanks, Dave, for the very clear and professional drawing.
Will certainly have a go as the seating position is not suited to my 6ft 1" height.
Strange, because I recall reading somewhere that taller drivers were steered towards the SP250 when they found the E-Type too tight for a 6 ft frame.
Will certainly have a go as the seating position is not suited to my 6ft 1" height.
Strange, because I recall reading somewhere that taller drivers were steered towards the SP250 when they found the E-Type too tight for a 6 ft frame.
Re: Dart Seat reclining brackets
I confess to being a 6' 2" bloater who has driven Darts all day long and had no more discomfort than the usual need to stretch my legs every two to three hours and have a cupper and use the rest room.
The thing that I found more useful is extending the column to lift the steering wheel a couple of inches when fitting R&P. It meant that I could still grasp the wheel when turning right because my knee wasn't trapped between the door and steering wheel.
The thing that I found more useful is extending the column to lift the steering wheel a couple of inches when fitting R&P. It meant that I could still grasp the wheel when turning right because my knee wasn't trapped between the door and steering wheel.
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Re: Dart Seat reclining brackets
Dear Dave,
The first owner of my car solved the lack of room and seating by simply cutting off the round frame to which the runners are attached and welding flat strip to stub and bolting this direct to floor. Quite comfortable if you had log legs!!!! Those height challenged amongst us not so good.
I hunted around when I restored the car and replaced the frame and runners etc. Now standard set up and fully adjustable BUT back rest too upright and uncomfortable. Fixed by putting wooden ramp under runners on floor, app 2 inch at front tapering away to nothing just before rear most runner mounting bolt. Now back rest nicely sloping backwards with added bonus of increased support under thighs.
Needless to say extra length bolts fitted to floor runners to compensate for extra height.
Yours
Kent
The first owner of my car solved the lack of room and seating by simply cutting off the round frame to which the runners are attached and welding flat strip to stub and bolting this direct to floor. Quite comfortable if you had log legs!!!! Those height challenged amongst us not so good.
I hunted around when I restored the car and replaced the frame and runners etc. Now standard set up and fully adjustable BUT back rest too upright and uncomfortable. Fixed by putting wooden ramp under runners on floor, app 2 inch at front tapering away to nothing just before rear most runner mounting bolt. Now back rest nicely sloping backwards with added bonus of increased support under thighs.
Needless to say extra length bolts fitted to floor runners to compensate for extra height.
Yours
Kent
Re: Dart Seat reclining brackets
Well I am sure you are right.... Wilf would approve your design and make a Technical Notes sheet of it. Even though he liked his seats just as they were ... standard.
Personally I think this mod is much better than the spacers I made for mine as the seat backs won't wobble.
And just think, 60 years they were designing this splendid car and we are still improving it!
When will we have a perfect Dart???
Personally I think this mod is much better than the spacers I made for mine as the seat backs won't wobble.
And just think, 60 years they were designing this splendid car and we are still improving it!
When will we have a perfect Dart???
Re: Dart Seat reclining brackets
Adrian Hetherington has designed a variable retractable seat back based on a block with different sized flats. I am no engineer but it seems to work well. He is based in the IOM with a car which also has electric power steering.
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Re: Dart Seat reclining brackets
Dave,
Thankyou so much for both your design and excellent drawing. Just completed this mod to both seats - superb!
Kind regards
Roger
Thankyou so much for both your design and excellent drawing. Just completed this mod to both seats - superb!
Kind regards
Roger
Re: Dart Seat reclining brackets
Coincidently, finally after having made the brackets 6 months ago, I fitted them to the driver's seat today. First impressions are very favourable but will need a test drive to confirm the view is improved. Many thanks Dave.