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Lovely Lanchesters

Christopher Storey
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Lovely Lanchesters

Post by Christopher Storey » Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:30 pm

Seen today at the Wirral Car Club rally at Thornton Hough, Wirral

A quite stunning Lanchester 18

Does anyone know what the glass bottle with a "Simms" cap is for ? Even the owner did not know

Also, a Lovely L10, I believe with a Sportsman body
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Re: Lovely Lanchesters

Post by Christopher Storey » Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:49 pm

Best shot of the L 18 - an engine you could eat your dinner off :D :D
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Re: Lovely Lanchesters

Post by ranald » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:32 am

Hello Christopher, I’m the owner of the 15/18. What a great event yesterday and nice to have 2 Lanchesters in attendance. This annual Wirral run involves 3 static details and a very carefully planned road run taking us through Port Sunlight, many lovely villages and the promenade at Hoylake. It seems to be well publicised, for example a free program is available with details of all the cars. People are standing in groups to view the cars at regular intervals enroute and there is much waving to be done! You didn’t get the opportunity to ask me about the Simms device. It is an upper cylinder lubricant system. Not standard equipment but a period fitting. I think it has an internal component missing and I have tried to find someone with the same unit so I can compare. In the meantime I’ve disconnected it from the inlet manifold. My car did 120 miles yesterday. Thank you for support and for posting these photos. Ranald

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Re: Lovely Lanchesters

Post by Sydsmith » Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:55 pm

Christopher/Ranald.

I am fairly certain the glass bottle is/was part of the automatic lubrication system, which is activated from the inlet manifold, there should be brake pipe type tubing running from the bottom of it to feed oil to the spring hangers/shackles etc.

My Daimler 15 has a similar but less fancy bottle in the same place, the tubes on mine are on place, but the tubing has been cut off at the spring shackles.

The shackle pins should be drilled and the tubes should feed oil into them, on mine the pins have been replaced with the same pins but they are not drilled.

The correct pins are available from Marcel Renshaw, listed on fleabay but they are complex things to make and a complete set is quite a lot of money. Syd.

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Re: Lovely Lanchesters

Post by John-B » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:33 pm

As it happens, the page header this week shows a BSA, Daimler 15 and Lanchester engine in the animated photo which all show a bottle in the same place. I've repeated it below as the header image changes every week. I was assured by the Daimler 15 owner that the glass bottle was part of the lubrication system.
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Wait for the third, fourth and fifth photos in the sequence which should show a photo every 12 seconds in a browser or photo application although some don't show the animation.

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Re: Lovely Lanchesters

Post by Rolf B. » Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:06 pm

At the shown places where the bottles are, my 1933 Daimler 15 Sports Coupé has a round tank made of iron sheet like a can as reservoir for the brake fluid of the hydraulic braking system.

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Re: Lovely Lanchesters

Post by Rolf B. » Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:46 pm

And here's the picture of the engine compartement with the brake fluid reservoir

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Re: Lovely Lanchesters

Post by ranald » Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:54 pm

I'm pretty sure I have correctly identified it as I mention in my earlier post. Its a Simms No. 1 upper cylinder lubricant device. Its beautifully made and has a very fine adjuster to ensure the desired amount of lubricant gets into the inlet manifold. The only other one I have been aware of is one sold by HVauctions in June last year. I asked them to put me in touch with the buyer but unfortunately nothing came of that. If anyone sees another one, please let me know as I'd love to compare the components to see if I can work out what might be missing in mine. Thanks for the interest. (The brake fluid reservoir and spring lubrication are elsewhere on the 15/18 chassis).

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Re: Lovely Lanchesters

Post by Sydsmith » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:45 pm

Ranald, Without a doubt it is the auto lubrication header vessel, just looked at my 15 maintenance manual (as you know the Daimler 15 and some Lanchesters were close relations) and it shows yet another type of header unit, I know they used a tin one and at least three types of glass containers, so there were several different types used, but the location was always driver side, top of bulkhead above the steering column as on the photo of your car.

I have not got access to a copy of the workshop manual, which I am sure will have the tubing detail, but no doubt Big Al Lanchester Man, will chip in soon, I am sure he will be able to help.

It seems most cars have had the system removed or disconnected as it dripped oil if not properly adjusted, but the key components are the right shackle pins. Syd

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Re: Lovely Lanchesters

Post by ranald » Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:12 am

Syd, I’ve just remembered, it was discussed in a previous forum posting. I attach a link. http://archive.dloc.co.uk/forum/topic.a ... erms=Simms
All the best, Ranald

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