Does anyone know the Lockheed part numbers for the hydraulic wheel cylinders on a 1934 LA10. I know that hydraulic brakes were only used for a short time on Lanchesters, reputedly due to a falling out between the 2 companies. I have a copy of an old Lockheed brakes catalogue covering the 1930s, including an application list, but there is no mention of Lanchester. I have tried several classic car brake specialists, but I have had no useful information, other than the fact that the cylinders are probably unobtainable.
If I can identify the part number, I may be able to get a cross reference to another make.
Mike
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LA10 wheel cylinders
Re: LA10 wheel cylinders
Hi Mike, why not contact Pastparts, they are able to re- sleeve Wheel Cylinder with a Stsinless Steel Sleeve, which of course is corrosion resitstant .
Here are their web site details:-
http://www.pastparts.co.uk/
Cheers A'l
ps Looking forward to meeting up with you when we visit the Island . A'l
Here are their web site details:-
http://www.pastparts.co.uk/
Cheers A'l
ps Looking forward to meeting up with you when we visit the Island . A'l
Re: LA10 wheel cylinders
Thanks Al
I already had sleeving as an option, although I am reluctant to let irreplaceable parts out of my possession. There is a local machine shop that can do the work. I had a near loss with my brake shoes, which went to Friction Linings shortly before it went into liquidation. I got them back, with new linings a week before it happened.
I believe that the wheel cylinders on the LA10 are similar, if not identical to those used on MG TAs and TBs. These are available from the MG Octagon CC, made to the original pattern in bronze. I need to know the Lockheed part numbers for the LA10 cylinders to confirm or otherwise. Unfortunately, Lockheed did not include any Lanchesters in its parts catalogues; I understand that this was at Lanchester's request as it wanted to maintain a monoploy on the supply of spares for its cars. The part numbers in the Lanchester parts list for the LA10 are company numbers and do not relate to the Lockheed numbers.
Mike
I already had sleeving as an option, although I am reluctant to let irreplaceable parts out of my possession. There is a local machine shop that can do the work. I had a near loss with my brake shoes, which went to Friction Linings shortly before it went into liquidation. I got them back, with new linings a week before it happened.
I believe that the wheel cylinders on the LA10 are similar, if not identical to those used on MG TAs and TBs. These are available from the MG Octagon CC, made to the original pattern in bronze. I need to know the Lockheed part numbers for the LA10 cylinders to confirm or otherwise. Unfortunately, Lockheed did not include any Lanchesters in its parts catalogues; I understand that this was at Lanchester's request as it wanted to maintain a monoploy on the supply of spares for its cars. The part numbers in the Lanchester parts list for the LA10 are company numbers and do not relate to the Lockheed numbers.
Mike
Re: LA10 wheel cylinders
Hi Mike just dug out my Lockheed Brake parts book, but it only lists overhaul kits, and does not even list Lanchesters at all, although in the front under Vehicle Applications it lists vehicles 1935/ 1947 , so sorry I'm unable to help this time .
Best wishes
A'l
Best wishes
A'l
Re: LA10 wheel cylinders
http://www.Classic-spares.co.uk
http://www.powertrackbrakes.co.uk
Have most hard to find stuff, seal kits are easy to get. The above probably also have wheel cylinders. If you have one replacement you can always then get the displaced one re-sleeved.
I have had mine (Daimler 15) to bits, a couple had sized up but just cleaned up with fine emery paper and fitted new cup seals. Never leaked again.
Peter
http://www.powertrackbrakes.co.uk
Have most hard to find stuff, seal kits are easy to get. The above probably also have wheel cylinders. If you have one replacement you can always then get the displaced one re-sleeved.
I have had mine (Daimler 15) to bits, a couple had sized up but just cleaned up with fine emery paper and fitted new cup seals. Never leaked again.
Peter
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Re: LA10 wheel cylinders
Dear Mike,
Lockheed details are a bit hard to come by but I have a catalogue which does give some information. The Lockheed reference for the cylinders on these 10s is 49. These were fitted on the MG SA on the front and rear, and on the WA on the rear. The TA, TB and TC have cylinder references 38 and 40. They have cylinder bores of 7/8" and 1 " respectively whereas the 49 has a bore of 1 1/4".
Looking for other cars which used these cylinders is almost a waste of time. The only thing which might be of use is that various pre war Triumphs also used the same cylinders i.e. some Glorias and Dolomites. Despite there being very few pre war Triumphs, the pre war Triumph Club does offer a very comprehensive spares service which did include exchange cylinders but as I sold my Triumph a while ago, I cannot confirm that they still offer this. However, I mention this in case you know of someone who is in that Club and maybe they could help.
The other option is here :
http://www.svwspares.co.uk/catalogue/parts.asp?pID=16
and I reckon F523A is the one you'd want (but you'd need to double check with them and not just take my word)
Other cars which used these cylinders are Morris and Wolseley 16s, 18s, 20s and 25s, and the Morris 10/4 and 10/6 on the front, 1936 British Salmson, 1940 V12 Lagonda and some 1935 Singers.
I'm pretty certain you'll know that Powertrack have remanufactured master cylinders for our 10s which is all to their credit. They have also recently reintroduced the previously unobtainable front wheel cylinders for some RMA Rileys and I suppose, on that basis, they might have the 10 wheel cylinders on their radar if enough interest was shown.
The individual part numbers for the components of these cylinders are :
Repair Kit KL 71430
Piston 230
Rubber cup 231
Boot 232
Crown Spring (that's the spreader) 5227
Lockheed details are a bit hard to come by but I have a catalogue which does give some information. The Lockheed reference for the cylinders on these 10s is 49. These were fitted on the MG SA on the front and rear, and on the WA on the rear. The TA, TB and TC have cylinder references 38 and 40. They have cylinder bores of 7/8" and 1 " respectively whereas the 49 has a bore of 1 1/4".
Looking for other cars which used these cylinders is almost a waste of time. The only thing which might be of use is that various pre war Triumphs also used the same cylinders i.e. some Glorias and Dolomites. Despite there being very few pre war Triumphs, the pre war Triumph Club does offer a very comprehensive spares service which did include exchange cylinders but as I sold my Triumph a while ago, I cannot confirm that they still offer this. However, I mention this in case you know of someone who is in that Club and maybe they could help.
The other option is here :
http://www.svwspares.co.uk/catalogue/parts.asp?pID=16
and I reckon F523A is the one you'd want (but you'd need to double check with them and not just take my word)
Other cars which used these cylinders are Morris and Wolseley 16s, 18s, 20s and 25s, and the Morris 10/4 and 10/6 on the front, 1936 British Salmson, 1940 V12 Lagonda and some 1935 Singers.
I'm pretty certain you'll know that Powertrack have remanufactured master cylinders for our 10s which is all to their credit. They have also recently reintroduced the previously unobtainable front wheel cylinders for some RMA Rileys and I suppose, on that basis, they might have the 10 wheel cylinders on their radar if enough interest was shown.
The individual part numbers for the components of these cylinders are :
Repair Kit KL 71430
Piston 230
Rubber cup 231
Boot 232
Crown Spring (that's the spreader) 5227
Re: LA10 wheel cylinders
Thanks to all.
It looks like the MG VA Register is a possibility for sleeved cylinders on an exchange basis. I am a member of the MG Car Club, so it should be an option. However, I have now got the brakes working as they should, with no visible leaks. The car passed an MOT this week with only a couple of advisories on the front spring shackles. So, the need for brake wheel cylinders has now receded. If further problems occur, I will probably get the existing cylinders sleeved locally.
I did know about the new master cylinders from Powertrack; I bought one earlier this year and fitted it to replace the old one, which leaked despite a service kit and honed bore.
Mike
It looks like the MG VA Register is a possibility for sleeved cylinders on an exchange basis. I am a member of the MG Car Club, so it should be an option. However, I have now got the brakes working as they should, with no visible leaks. The car passed an MOT this week with only a couple of advisories on the front spring shackles. So, the need for brake wheel cylinders has now receded. If further problems occur, I will probably get the existing cylinders sleeved locally.
I did know about the new master cylinders from Powertrack; I bought one earlier this year and fitted it to replace the old one, which leaked despite a service kit and honed bore.
Mike