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Transmission noise in Conquest Century / Oil query

JedFurneaux
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Re: Transmission noise in Conquest Century / Oil query

Post by JedFurneaux »

Multigrade oils didn't exist in 1957 so please don't confuse '10/30' with the correct oil which is MONOGRADE 30. A 10/30 multigrade is fine for many modern engines which have far closer machining tolerances but way too thin for 1950's applications. One of the advantages of the Daimler pre select box & fluid flywheel models is that they use the same oil as the engine so on my '30's vintage LQ I buy bulk 20 litre containers of the stuff on e bay. It even does the lawn mower as well! Very economical and free delivery.
Also I was pleasantly surprised to discover that Castrol have a Classic/vintage help line which not only is answered quickly and by a real person but also someone who actually knows his stuff! Check out their website for details.
Check out 'lubetechoil' on eBay. Their Classic HD30 30w monograde low detergent oil (20 ltrs) is currently selling at £45.95 inc free 3 day delivery. There is also a more expensive non detergent Vintage H30 but any classic car with a decent oil filtration system will manage with the cheaper low detergent version.
Bearing in mind you will pay at the very least £16-£20 for 5 litres on the high street this is a massive saving.
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JT7196
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Re: Transmission noise in Conquest Century / Oil query

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Hi, I always use Castrol XL 30 for both Fluid Flywheel, and my Pr-Selector Gearbox, and Castrol XXL 40 for the Engine,hope this helps ...

Cheers Al 😊

CHRIS J
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Re: Transmission noise in Conquest Century / Oil query

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Hi the workshop manual recommends the same 10/30 oil for Engine, Fluid flywheel and Gearbox.
I have used Morris 10/40 for the last 11years and travelled thousands of miles on rally's and holidays no problems.

Chris DJ254

Alistair
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Re: Transmission noise in Conquest Century / Oil query

Post by Alistair »

Thanks to everyone who has contributed. For example I did not know that 10/30 was not the same as 10w30. I have got 30 monograde Castrol oil for this task. The engine oil will also need to be changed. Thanks for the info about lawn mower oil, I did wonder....

The noise is present in neutral and every gear when selected, I think. I have been advised of the correct flushing and changing procedure so I will follow that with the correct oil and hopefully that will be the end of that matter.... I will report back once I have had chance to do so.

grahamemmett
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Re: Transmission noise in Conquest Century / Oil query

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Hi Alistair
All the manuals are on the club website, go to Member Services then Archives and select the Catalog.
Graham Emmett
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CHRIS J
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Re: Transmission noise in Conquest Century / Oil query

Post by CHRIS J »

Hi
the recommended lubricants page in the 1956 first edition manual has Shell 10w/30 is this not a multigrade oil?
Chris

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Re: Transmission noise in Conquest Century / Oil query

Post by grahamemmett »

Hi Alistair,
Yes things had moved on by the 50s and the engine used a multigrade, I use 20/50 Classic. However the fluid flywheel and gearbox must have a Straight 30, nothing else.
There are loads of suppliers. I’m using LRT in Lancashire who supply the German FUCHS Oils on a next day service. (On our website)
But there’s Miller, Penrite, Morris, Rock oils all on Google. Also Classic Oils at Bicester know their stuff.
The flywheel oil never degrades only needs topping up now and again but change the gearbox oil every 3000 miles. Don’t drive the car unless the flywheel oil is up to the filler plug as lack of oil not only means lack of motion but crucially the centre bearing gets hot, wears in a few miles then leaks any oil you add. Then it’s engine out for a new seal. Usual story - seal £5, labour £500.
Graham Emmett
Northwich, Cheshire
Joint DB18 Registrar (with Marcel Renshaw)
DB18 1949 LCV522 (Yes that one with the P100s)
https://www.db18.org

grahamemmett
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Re: Transmission noise in Conquest Century / Oil query

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Just noticed this for LRT Lubricates

https://www.lrt-lubricants.co.uk/collec ... engine-oil

10% OFF your next order use code oil10 at checkout
Graham Emmett
Northwich, Cheshire
Joint DB18 Registrar (with Marcel Renshaw)
DB18 1949 LCV522 (Yes that one with the P100s)
https://www.db18.org

Db n j
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Re: Transmission noise in Conquest Century / Oil query

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I got Morris oil from our local farm supplies place. Saves paying carriage.

Alistair
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Re: Transmission noise in Conquest Century / Oil query

Post by Alistair »

Thanks once again for the information. I'm very new to Daimler ownership and its somewhat different to my usual choices of transport! Seems the club has a lot of the stuff I need, I just need to look in the right place for it all. The last British classic I had was a Woleseley a few years ago and I felt very much "On my own" with that one and I didn't keep it long. Once the weather improves I will venture out to do oil checks and changes. The car has been off the road 12+ years so its a case of "recomissioning" rather than "restoration" - I hope....

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