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SP250 Dwell angle

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:38 pm
by Culbu
Good evening guys,

Today in France, it was a sunny day ! A good time to have a ride with the SP250 currently into my workshop.

The ride was a real pleasure, the engine, recently and completely rebuilt, seems to run perfectly. Once back at my workshop, just by professional consciousness, I decided to check up the dynamic ignition timing and the Dwell angle. For that purpose, I use a Gunson G4123 Supastrobe Professional.

10°BTDC at 750 rev/mn : perfect. But concerning the Dwell angle, 98% !!! Can any engine run with a such Dwell angle ?!? The data given by the official handbook is 32% !! Should I incriminate my device or should I adjust my contact points gaps ?

Thank you,

Julian

Re: SP250 Dwell angle

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:43 pm
by Chris_R
Don't you halve the reading for an 8 cylinder engine?

Re: SP250 Dwell angle

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:29 am
by Culbu
When the Dwell angle is given in %, no matter the number of cylinders. I think...

Re: SP250 Dwell angle

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 7:36 am
by heh101353
Just my 2c
  • dwell angle too small ==> ignition coil will not deliver it’s maximum power
  • dwell angel too big ==> ignition coil will overheat
The dwell angle depends indeed on how many cylinders an engine has.

For an eight cylinder engine the distributor needs to trigger eight sparks in one revolution of the distributor shaft.
This leaves a mere 45° degrees of revolution for each spark.
The dwell angle therefore should be at about 33°.

I guess the figure given in the handbook is correct

Hans

Re: SP250 Dwell angle

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:27 am
by Chris_R
Page 2 of the instructions.
For an 8 cylinder engine: Dwell % = Dwello / 0.45 assuming a single distributor and a single set of points.
The data sheet for my dwell angle meter quotes 31o- 37o for a Lucas 20D8 distributor on a Daimler V8. That would be 70% - 82%. Your gap is slightly off at about 44o. The gap needs to be increased slightly.
If all else fails, read the instructions!

Re: SP250 Dwell angle

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:21 am
by Culbu
Chris,

Are you saying that the value of 32 given by my SP250 Handbook is a degrees and not a percentage ?

In this case, I would understand...

Julian

Re: SP250 Dwell angle

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:31 am
by Chris_R
Yes.

Re: SP250 Dwell angle

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:34 am
by Culbu
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Re: SP250 Dwell angle

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:09 pm
by A.N.Other
Does the fact that there are two sets of points make a difference ?
Also how much wobble is in the shaft ? If it is considerable then it will exacerbate the findings.
That said if it is running sweet then leave it well alone.

Re: SP250 Dwell angle

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:40 pm
by Chris_R
If there are two sets of points each set is tested separately with no connection between them.